Condi Rice on the Naqba: “Bad things happen to people all the time”

Posted: January 25th, 2011 | Author: | Filed under: In the News, the US and us | Tags: , , , | 5 Comments »

Like the Wikileaks documents, the Palestine Papers are interesting not just because of their revelations (some of these scoops were known before), but also, and perhaps even mostly, because of the tone and style of statesmen behind closed doors.

This nugget is from the Guardian:

PA leaders repeatedly threatened to abandon attempts to negotiate a two-state solution in favour of a one-state option. At the same meeting, Erekat declared that if the settlement of the West Bank continued, “we will announce the one state and the struggle for equality in the state of Israel”.

But the documents show US officials unmoved by such claims. Why were the Palestinians “always in a chapter of a Greek tragedy”, secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, asked at a meeting with Erekat in Washington in the autumn of 2009.

Her predecessor, Rice, had been even more dismissive. In July 2008 during talks with Palestinian leaders over compensation for refugees who fled or were forced from their homes when Israel was established in 1948, she said: “Bad things happen to people all around the world all the time.”

5 Comments on “Condi Rice on the Naqba: “Bad things happen to people all the time””

  1. 1 maayan said at 4:39 am on January 28th, 2011:

    Apparently, Condi Rice knew of what she was speaking.

  2. 2 noam said at 6:34 am on January 28th, 2011:

    the old “all Palestinians are terrorists” defense?

  3. 3 maayan said at 7:03 am on January 28th, 2011:



    Condi Rice’s statement is a severe understatement. How many Jewish refugees from Arab lands were there? How many lost their property? How many Israelis and Yishuvniks died in 1947-1948 as a consequence of the war launched upon them by the Arabs of Mandatory Palestine and of other countries? How many Israeli soldiers have died in wars against enemies of Israel?

    I don’t think any defense is necessary on my part. You might have to explain, however, how an online magazine to which you are a key contributor splashes a story about a 19 year old Palestinian “teen” (if he were Israeli you wouldn’t refer to him as a teen, unless he was an Arab-Israeli) who was “murdered” even though he was part of a group throwing rocks at an Israeli, while completely ignoring the nationalistic, terrorist group of 8-14 Palestinians who murdered, raped, stole and robbed Israelis for years.

    I guess it’s okay cuz bad things happen to occupiers. Right?

    From what I’ve read, Netta Sorek was apparently a strong advocate for peace and conciliation with Arabs, including teaching at an Arab-Israeli school. I understand if reporting what happened to her goes against the grain of your editorial position at 972, but integrity requires that people who seek to find one side as endless victims, should also know when to acknowledge one of the key reasons for the ongoing conflict – a century old tradition of targeting Jews, just because they are Jewish. And yes, these murderers came through an open portion of the barrier.

  4. 4 noam said at 7:08 am on January 28th, 2011:

    I won’t engage in the “who suffered more” competition you started here up since its irrelevant to the situation today. the refugees problem is real, and it needs a solution – and Israel (the offending party) should be involved in it.

    as for the editorial line on 972: It’s a bloggers site. people write on the things they care most about. if you feel stories as the one you mentioned are underreported on the English blogosphere, I suggest you open your own blog.

  5. 5 maayan said at 4:25 pm on January 28th, 2011:

    The refugee problem is only a problem because everybody wants to keep the refugees as victims. Israel proposed solutions in 2000, 2001 and 2008. Lebanon and the other Arab states could have also addressed the problem over the decades. It’s far from being solely Israel’s responsibility. To remind you, the Palestinians not only rejected Israel’s deals, but considering their confident attitudes in the negotiations, it appears they are in no rush to close a deal.

    Condi Rice’s statement is correct, bad things happen to people. They happen to Palestinians and they happen to Jews. Neither side has a monopoly on bad, but considering the circumstances, you would think the Palestinians and their supporters would press hard for a deal. Do you see that happening? I don’t. Did you read how the Guardian reported their initial findings on the Palestine Papers? They were upset the Palestinians were willing to give up some things. They were upset that compromises could actually be discussed.

    Not to worry, because in the meantime you can enjoy this: